Eric Lendall
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Posted - 2008.08.02 13:26:00 -
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I'm going to try to keep my responses brief.
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Do the evil pirates (people who kill for no reason, or who kill to loot and steal) totally outnumber the righteous protectors in this game? (People who only kill bad people, and usually not for the profit / loot)
There are no good or bad people. What you're talking about is simply the outcome of being viewed by another person's viewpoint. For instance, if you mine a veldspar asteroid, that's one less veldspar asteroid that I can mine for myself. Therefore, in my view, you have in a sense pirated from me. If you put it on the market and make a profit from it by undercutting me, then you've again taken profit that would have been mine. The so called bad-guys are simply guys, struggling for power, just like George Washington did when he lead the fledgling colonial forces against the red coats.
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What does this say about people in society? That without the constraints of society they do not see the need for a society's general rules against destruction?
It says that human beings cannot appreciate order without a degree of chaos to judge it by, and that you have never set foot into 0.0. There are many very healthy societies functioning in 0.0 without the artificial constraints that CONCORD provides. They generally set up their own sets of rules, that often times mirror that of the larger Empire society. However, each of these 0.0 mini-societies, and modern day RL societies are only in existence because they have banded together and destroyed many other societies.
Also, one could well argue that the pirates are the ones truly alive and enjoying life, and that the carebears are walking zombies. Sometimes you can't appreciate being alive unless you've stared death in the face.
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Part of what makes us human is our societies and our order. For as long as there's been soldiers there's been civilians, and the best societies are ones where all the people in it are protected by righteous people.
1) You're implying that being human is some sort of greatly unique accomplishment. It's not. People do it every day. Idiots do it. Lots and lots of idiots. People are nothing more than big-brained animals.
2) Animals have societies as well. Chimps have a structured hierarchy, a pecking order of dominance among males and females which is respected by the lower castes. Whales have societies, as well as dolphins, lions, wolves, buffalo and pretty much any sort of social animal. Being social is not a trait unique among humans, nor is having a structured society.
3) The "righteous" people aren't defending their society from "bad" people. They're only seen as righteous within their society, and they're simply killing the enemies of their society, much like the Romans did to well... pretty much everyone. Do you think the barbarian army at the beginning of Gladiator were "evil"? Do you think the Romans were? Those who seek to harm the social group are seen as the enemy from within the social group, while the enemy sees the social group as the evil ones. They're both simply varying viewpoints.
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Not to say that you're "required" to be ethical when playing EVE, but why are so few people ethical when the offical rules say you're allowed to not be? Are you all such blind slaves that you... cannot see the society underneath that can form?
Pot, meet kettle. Pirates are a necessary part of the society. You don't seem to see that. Lawbreakers are a necessary part of any society. Villains are necessary. People NEED those types of people to point the finger at and say "that guy's bad. I'm glad I'm better than him!" Without an occasional dose of chaos, one cannot appreciate the order that one strives to achieve.
EVE is a wonderfully open sandbox where you only have what you're able to keep from others and I like it that way.
Perhaps next time you get ganked, you'll take responsibility for your actions and realize that it is your own fault for allowing it.
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